Well our team stands corrected, we hinted at a possible Bburago diecast model of the Ferrari F12 tdf, well it is in fact a BBR pre-production sample. Shortly after our article BBR officially released notice of their new diecast lineup. Also the sample of the F12 tdf is fully on display at the German Toy Fair for all to review. Three more colours are on tap too, they include: Red, Black and White. And the assortment of 1:18 diecast models doesn’t stop here, seems the team has a slew in new material in works. They include the Ferrari F430 Scuderia & Spider, Ferrari FXX-K, Ferrari LaFerrari, Ferrari Scuderia Spider 16M, and Ferrari LaFerrari Aperta.
It will be interesting to see if these models live up to some of the great BBR diecast models of the past. The likes of the Ferrari Enzo and the stunning Ferrari 512BB LM in all its variants come to mind. Only time will tell…
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Well, I have the excellent F430. I am sorry to report, though, that it seems to start suffering from zincpest: In several places the surface is not as smooth as in the beginning. Tiny irregularities like bubbles or dust inclusions are visible at certain angles. Same for the much younger Kyosho Phantom. The AUTOart VW Phaeton has it too, only much worse. As much as I love diecast, that issue really worries me a lot.
I to have the BBR ferrari F430 spyder Silverstone grey my most expensive model at something like £370. It’s a lovely model not like you the paint work is excellent . My problem with this model is the interior ,the seats ,dashboard and door panels have all turned tacky .Now parts previously glued on are coming off the doors (arm rests)etc.
I have had this model a few years ,it has been in a display case .Also there are no children in the house to tinker with the models.
I have e mailed BBR on a number of occasions but because i can not show proof of purchase they show little interest. Who keeps receipts for something they bought perhaps 6or7 years ago?
When i asked for an explanation as to why this was happening or how i could glue the armrests back , they offered no suggestions. I would have happily sent the model back to them to sort out . Whinge over…….Not bought another BBR since……..
What you described is actually called paint rash is actually fixable with careful use of some 6000-12000 grit micromesh, water, and some polishing compound from Tamiya/local auto shop. Zinc pest happens when the metal casting itself starts to crack and disintegrate. Do you see any of that in your F430?
Pretty much wrong on all counts
Any news regarding price point?
First let me say (as many others have before me) two words about the die cast F12 TDF in it’s current form: “dog legs.” If BBR’s intention is to introduce a high-quality opening version of these select Ferrari cars they are off to a rocky start. I’m all for a BBR Enzo level die cast with a price point for between $200-$300. If the reality turns out to be HWE quality die cast for a BBR resin price then no thanks. This is where it starts to get interesting from a business perspective for BBR. Under their current business model they sell the majority of their models as sealed and resin. The resin models are much cheaper and easier to produce than their quality die cast counterparts and thus more profitable. In one sense it’s almost self destructive of BBR to introduce a high quality die cast model into their business. They basically have 3 possible options for pricing them and all of those options have negative trade offs. If they price them less than their current resin models then that will cut into sales of their resin models because who wouldn’t prefer an opening model with high quality compared to a sealed resin? That leads to lower profit on their majority resin business and hurts the bottom line. If they price them at a price equal or moderately higher than the resin then again logic would say more buyers will choose the die cast for the opening options and again less profit. If they price them at a premium above the current resin prices then they price themselves out of the die cast market because not many collectors can afford to pay $450-$500 for a model. So where do they make up the profit margin in the scenario? Answer they make these die cast models at a lower than BBR Enzo die cast that is cheaper to make but of HWE comparable quality and detailing but price them at the same or higher cost of resin models. It will be interesting to see what they do with the pricing and quality. .
Yes,it will be interesting to see how this all goes for BBR and what they do. There are and have been numerous issues with BBR over the years.
I have yet to see any high end diecast model that doesn’t use dog legs for the bonnet, so I wouldn’t hold my breath that this will change. Even Autoart’s thin metal arms don’t reflect the hinges + struts in the 1:1.
I too was wondering about this. We’ll see I guess. Intuition tells me they won’t be more expensive than resin models, simply due to the fact that they won’t sell enough. Happened with all their previous diecasts, which led to countless “test” versions and such.
$200-300? Forget it. They stopped metal models because they made a lot of copies (as I remember the 375 variants were made at leas in 13000 copies altogether) and it took years to sell them. That was a huge cut on their cash flow.
I would guess the price range will be €350-450 ($370-480) and variants will be made in much lower quantities (<1000).
I have all the 375 variants, an Enzo, 2 BB LMs and an F430 Spider. All of them are in factory condition (the F430 has a SUV's clearance but other ways OK) . I have a few resins and having problems with them: loosing windscreens, meshes, micro wing from the front corner of the 599xx, etc. I have a 458 Speciale under repair at the factory with 9 (!!!) issues: cracked paint, missing mesh, loosing light cover, front windscreen, side windows, etc. When I saw the model it was a disaster, I can't imagine how that piece of $hit left the QA division.
To all the experts and overanalyzers on here…..
1. BBR has NEVER made diecast models. All of them were Kyosho models branded as BBR due to licensing issues
2. Just like before, these models are again NOT made by BBR. They are Minichamps marketed under the BBR logo like Kyosho before them.
3. These are not dogleg hinges. They slide in and out of a “sleeve”.
4. A lot of 1:1 cars actually DO HAVE dogleg hinges.
Last but not least, don’t expect these models to be cheap. That’s a given considering the name on the box. That alone marks anything inside that box at least $100 up.
Only time will tell where the BBR diecast models are gonna be relegated to.
The F12 TDF is going to be 700$!!
Nuts! But it doesn’t surprise me. Good luck and at that price point they better up the quality HUGE!
$700? Is that factual or just speculation? $700 for this toy is nothing short of insane.
Speculation by a European retailer, but it has really snowballed
Hahahaha…..Every time I open this site the price is about $100 more. Hahaha. By the time it is actually released, we would be expecting $1500 per model at least. Then the $600 some mention now are going to look cheap. Hahahaha
Price for F12 TDF will be 299€
What is your source for this, if you don’t mind?
Hmm, Time will tell I guess on how much the model will be retailed. I am very happy that they decided to go into diecast again and I’m willing to pay premium price if quality is right. I suspect their move to diecast might have been influenced by the fact they got extra competition from amalgam in the sealed 1:18 range..
I think the TDF already looks fantastic, I’m just not convinced they included carpeting in the interior. It looks like they haven’t incorporated it..