More on the Ferrari front, this one comes from Kyosho. The team has unveiled official photos of the upcoming re-release of their popular 1:18 diecast and full-access Ferrari F40. The street date has been confirmed for August 2023. Pricing has surely increased with a suggested retail of $349 US. No other colours have been mentioned in the PR other than the model is still under approval by BBR, so it seems BBR currently holds the rights to the F40 in scale.
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Shame they dug up that dinosaur. Should’ve made a new casting. It’s not a bad model, but it’s just very old. That price increase is just silly. And how about paint rash, hopefully they can fix that (cause my F40s look pretty awful..)
To be honest, we weren’t expecting any improvement based on history with their re-release stories to date. The win here it will negate the overpriced aftermarket for this model. Like you said, it is good… On a side note, we’ve already seen suggested retail higher than the stated PR, not a good sign.
LOL, this is also overpriced, just a little less than what the idiots on eBay want for their paint rash-ridden copies.
At the end of the day vote with your wallet. Personally, the model is very good, do have the original in my collection alongside others from Kyosho. Not sure there is a better option today that provides you with access to the internal bits.
I have no illusions about the paint rash issue. The manufacturers of diecast models, such as Kyosho, CMC or Minichamps, on the strength of the blind infatuation of collectors with this old design, don’t give a damn about it and I don’t see them spending a cent to try to improve the issue. Collectors vote with their wallets and implicitly validate this recurring paint rash defect.
I have Just bought the Countach for 225 Euros.
With this price tag, this is the most pathetic re-release of the recent years.
I believe that Almost Real could do a _new_ model like this (very similar quality, details and materials) for a similar price. I believe that LCD Models could do a _new_ model like this for a cheaper price.
So, the idea of this model that just re-uses the old molds without any additional efforts and has a price as if it was developed from scratch… is just pathetic.
You know, I watched a couple of videos in YouTube related to this 1:18 re-release, and I should say that I was impressed. I noticed updated “carbon fiber” that looks really interesting, and I saw more details in the model itself. If it matches the reality, I should take my words back and admit that the re-release is really good and worth its price. Moreover, I personally would be interested in this model.
This model appeared on modelissimo de. From their photos, I don’t see significant improvements comparing to the old model… But I do see pretty high price :(
I thought I wanted one. I have both the Kyosho diecast and the resin. The resin is very good, although obviously a brick. I sold the diecast and thought of getting this one. I had the no-high-end diecast. But actually looking at these pictures it doesn’t give me much. Maybe ill just keep to my F40 resin.
Does CMC also suffer from paint rash? For some reason, even my almost 40 years old Bburagos still look fine.
Apart from the price, this one looks tempting. But I already have an Amalgam, because I wanted the most realistic one (although I am actually a bit disappointed by some loveless assembling), and then the now not so sophisticated Bburago for opening stuff.
Adding this would be too much.
The reason why our Bburago’s are fine is because back in the day they weren’t skipping on the primer layers and also were waiting for it to cure and not rushing to the paint. When you don’t add enough layers the metal underneath starts reacting with the oxygen and develops the “rash”. The primer on the other hand has a curing time in which it also reacts with the oxygen and is similar to bubbling on microscopic level, when they add the paint before the curing has ended it forms little holes from the bubbling through which moisture can reach the metal and we know what happens after – rash! Now imagine all of this while the models are transported through the rough sea in a damp container or the other case, a collector in a country with damp climate opens them and put them on display and after time you can see rash.
Thank you for the very interesing infomation about the paint rash problem. I always wanted to know why companies do these kind of silly mistakes. Obviously cost reduction is most times the main root of these kind of problems.
I have the same problem with my old Kyosho Mercedes CLS (2002) and also the Kyosho Honda NSX. Back then it was a well known issue amongst collectors, about Kyosho and the paint problems in some of its models.
Yes, CMC have big paint rash problems and not just a little. CMC pretends to ignore the problem, at the prices they sell their models for, it’s hard to admit it.
But even CMC collectors (I’m not going to make friends here), refrain from talking about it, probably for fear of depreciating their hard-earned collections.
You only have to look closely at the photos of the models sold at a high price on e-Bay to see that many CMCs (and not only the older ones) are affected.
This is not new, but there is a real “omerta” on this issue. As soon as an enthusiast raises the issue on the web, he is attacked as if he was adopting a heretical position, under the pretext that CMC would be the absolute master of the diecast miniature.
I have about 20 CMC’s and not one of them has any paint rash. And if that really was the case I would not be biased and admit that they are flawed since I pay top dollar and would be pissed off.
My collection consists of mostly Autoart models, but then I have also a number of models by Kyosho, Minichamps, Schuco, CMC etc. I was never under the impression that the Kyoshos are somehow more affected by paintrash than other brands. As for the F40, I have a high end light weight version, it has its pros and cons but it displays very nicely and it’s not too dififcult to disassemble if you feel like trying to improve it.
I think bburago and maistos probably hold up cause they cake on the paint like its a candy coating. Looks rather ridiculous. Maybe an attempt to hide the lesser quality gaps and shut lines. I’ve stripped down a recent Kyosho diecast and a very old Autoart diecast and repainted them… I can’t recall them even having a primer layer. I stripped down just the door of the BBR Ferrari 488 pista opening resin model to repair it. It had gray primer, followed by a pink base before the color was ever applied. Which is similar to how Ferrari paints reds. But it was surprising to find that much effort into a resin material model even if it did open
Where can I buy the model? I can not find a seller for it, who is selling for retail price?
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You guys do realize that paint rash is affected by any die cast manufacturer? However fixing paint rash on model cars is way easier than repainted them, all you have to do is just buff them out with water, high level grit sandpaper and three step rubbing compound for cars or model kits.
To say I was disappointed with the newest BBR-branded Kyosho model of Ferrari F40 is an understatement:- the quality of these is just atrocious: – the inconsistent-width joint around back engine cover is noticeable and ugly-looking, more befitting a model in twenty-dollar range. The iconic slotted back-glazing mounted shoddily – and, I am speaking from my experience of buying TWO of these new models and having returned both of them for a refund!
For a new collector they might work ok, but I am priviledged to own the previous issuance of the same Kyosho model from ten+ years ago, (which has a mild issue with paint ‘rush’, and which I was hoping to replace with the new model), BUT, my old model is so visibly superior in quality over the new BBR-branded one, it’s not even funny: The gaps at all joints in my ten-year-old Kyosho F40 are slim, crisp and precise, the body fit is excellent, the glazing is perfectly inset without any issues, etc. I mean, Kyosho models are known to have flaws, while BBR’s is known for immaculate quality, but here the roles reversed! I suspect (and blame) the by-now old and tired molds, while my old model likely benefited from molds being new and still crisp and unbroken. In short, the new F40 models suck with quality undeserving their high asking price! Cheers!
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